[110676] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Anyone notice strange announcements for 174.128.31.0/24
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Kaufman)
Tue Jan 13 14:28:01 2009
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:27:38 -0800
From: Matthew Kaufman <matthew@eeph.com>
To: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <802D3B06-BA15-4B27-8D13-85EEABC44C8A@ianai.net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Reply-To: matthew@eeph.com
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Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> Fortunately, people who run networks are not clueless ("jurors"?). Or
> at least they are not supposed to be clueless.
If Randy were to be charged under any of the various computer abuse
statutes (which, given the history of their (ab)use, he certainly could
be), jurors are who would be trying to figure out whether or not it was
ok to use "your" integer in a specific place in the BGP announcement he
made.
That's why *I* wouldn't have run such an experiment myself, because
there's just too many cases these days where people have gotten
convicted of doing things like putting the wrong integer in their
MySpace profile.
> An ASN is a well defined resource, with publicly available ownership
> information. If anyone on this list does not understand this, I suggest
> they do some more studying.
It is an integer. Under ARIN policy you certainly don't "own" it, you
just use it. In some places, that integer has meaning. How important
that meaning is, and whether or not someone else can use the same
integer in a similar place where it has that meaning without getting
charged with a crime, we don't know. What we *do* know is that some
people think it is valuable to try it out to get some experimental data,
and other people are all up in arms about it.
Matthew Kaufman
