[110422] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Ethical DDoS drone network
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ray Corbin)
Mon Jan 5 15:46:32 2009
From: Ray Corbin <rcorbin@traffiq.com>
To: Michael Gazzerro <mike.gazzerro@nobistech.net>, 'Jeffrey Lyon'
<jeffrey.lyon@blacklotus.net>, "nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:19:06 -0600
In-Reply-To: <02c001c96f61$61b480a0$251d81e0$@gazzerro@nobistech.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Until you get hit at 8GB/s and then don't have a nice 'off' button..
-r
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Gazzerro [mailto:mike.gazzerro@nobistech.net]=20
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 1:14 PM
To: 'Jeffrey Lyon'; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: Ethical DDoS drone network
You could just troll people on IRC until you get DDOS'd. All the fun, none
of the work!
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Lyon [mailto:jeffrey.lyon@blacklotus.net]=20
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:54 AM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Ethical DDoS drone network
FWIW, I'm primarily concerned about testing PPS loads and not brute
force bandwidth.
Best regards, Jeff
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Edward B. DREGER
<eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net> wrote:
> RD> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:54:50 +0800
> RD> From: Roland Dobbins
>
> RD> AUPs are a big issue, here..
>
> And AUPs [theoretically] set forth definitions.
>
> Of course, there exist colo providers with "unlimited 10 Gbps bandwidth"
> whose AUPs read "do not use 'too much' bandwith or we will get angry",
> thus introducing ambiguity regarding just _for what_ one is paying...
>
> Perhaps "abuse" is best _operationally_ defined as "something that
> angers someone enough that it's at least sort of likely to cost you some
> money -- and maybe even a lot"?
>
> Were the definition clear, I doubt there'd be such a long NANOG thread.
> (Yes, I'm feeling optimistic today.)
>
>
> Eddy
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