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Re: What to do when your ISP off-shores tech support

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (William Warren)
Thu Dec 25 09:44:41 2008

Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:47:01 -0500
From: William Warren <hescominsoon@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <web-22163903@remus.csulb.edu>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

Matthew Black wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:10:33 -0800
>  Etaoin Shrdlu <shrdlu@deaddrop.org> wrote:
>> Matthew Black wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:51:41 -0800
>>>  "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb@byrneit.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cox Communications has fully on-shore support. Here in SD they are
>>>> actually LOCAL.
>>
>>> In Verizon land, residential customers do not have
>>> CLEC voice or DSL alternatives. We do not have Cox.
>>> Our area is served by Charter Communications who has
>>> the broadband cable monopoly. Verizon has the fiber
>>> monopoly with their FIOS. AT&T fiber is not possible
>>> in Verizon land. Nobody competes against Verizon for
>>> residential service in Southern California.
>>
>> Sir, both COVAD and DSLExtreme beg to differ. Seriously. I just checked.
>>
>> -- 
>> The histories of mankind are histories only of the higher classes.
>>
>> Thomas Malthus
>
>
> Going through COVAD's interactive DSL chooser,
> there are no options for RESIDENTIAL service.
>
> <http://covad.com/web/index.html>
>
>
> DSLextreme is charging a higher price than Verizon
> and I suspect they are simply reselling Verizon's
> DSL rather than connecting my copper to their
> network. That's hardly what I consider CLEC service.
> I could be wrong and would switch if I could. But I
> don't see them offering voice and that's why I conclude
> they are reselling Verizon's DSL service.
>
> matthew black
> california state university, long beach
>
>
voice on landline?  drop it..go cellular.  I'm totally verizon free.  
Comcast does my internet and tv and sprint does my three business lines.


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