[109869] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Dec 12 18:51:33 2008
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
To: Nathan Stratton <nathan@robotics.net>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0812121712090.30005@bart.robotics.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:49:11 -0800
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
On Dec 12, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Joe Abley wrote:
>
>> On 2008-12-12, at 15:02, Martin List-Petersen wrote:
>>
>>> It's a misconception of some muppets, especially in IT related
>>> products, that forget, that a lot or IT professionals do travel
>>> all over the world and usually have a credit card in their home
>>> country.
>>> Pure and utter nonsense.
>>
>> Or perhaps the hassle of dealing with stolen US credit card numbers
>> from clients outside the US costs far more money than you could
>> hope to make back with the purchases of US nationals travelling
>> overseas?
>>
>> Could well be muppets, but surely there are other possibilities.
>
> Sad but true, we have had to turn off signups outside the US because
> of that very problem. Yes, I am sure we lose some sales, but in
> general it is not worth the fraud costs.
Why don't the fraudsters just use Open US Proxies?
Owen
