[10979] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: tiers? (fwd)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (George Herbert)
Thu Jul 17 21:47:41 1997
To: Danny <danny@upt.org>
cc: nanog@merit.edu, gherbert@crl.com
In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:09:13 -0000."
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:36:48 -0700
From: George Herbert <gherbert@crl.com>
>Does everyone agree with this, it's the only response I have received
>thus far (and according to the list, the sender works for a tier 1 provider).
>
>[snip]
>
>Tier 1: _Owns the fiber_, Multiple coast to coast paths of significant
> bandwidth
Of the large national network service providers, few actually own
their own fiber. Sprint and MCI do; UUnet was bought by someone
that does, PSI doesn't, AGIS doesn't, BBN doesn't, ANS doesn't.
Netcom, CRL, Genunity, Verio, Exodus, Internex, and the like don't.
Given that there are at least 6 major backbone providers by
anyone's standards and probably more like 20, and that only
4-5 companies own the fiber, obviously there's a mismatch there.
The number of companies with DS-3 backbones to 3 widely seperated
interexchange points (the previous "Tier 1" definition") now is
very close to 50. Owning fiber is probably not applicable.
-george william herbert
gherbert@crl.com