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RE: McColo and SPAM

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Frank Bulk)
Fri Dec 5 22:33:21 2008

From: "Frank Bulk" <frnkblk@iname.com>
To: "'Peter Serwe'" <peter.serwe@gmail.com>,
	"Skywing" <Skywing@valhallalegends.com>
In-Reply-To: <d3d177bd0812051257w23c837cagb765fa282472a64f@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:33:03 -0600
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

We experienced exactly no decrease with the McColo shut down a few weeks
back, even though we receive 2M+ messages per day.  It's interesting that
each service provider's spam populations are as different as they are.  Some
experienced gigantic decreases, others didn't.  And it's not like we have
just one domain.

I know MessageLabs examines spam rates per industry type. 

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Serwe [mailto:peter.serwe@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 2:57 PM
To: Skywing
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: McColo and SPAM

Certainly, I have seen a perceptual, yet completely subjective increase.

I know major operators who have claimed to see a gigantic decrease.

Peter

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Skywing <Skywing@valhallalegends.com>
wrote:
> McColo hosted the command and control servers for spam botnets and didn't
originate spam directly, at least primarily, according to my understanding.
>
> - S
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Serwe [mailto:peter.serwe@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 3:49 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: McColo and SPAM
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:34 AM,  <nanog-request@nanog.org> wrote:
>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:14:08 +0100
>> From: Revolver Onslaught <revolver.onslaught@gmail.com>
>> Subject: McColo and SPAM
>> To: nanog <nanog@merit.edu>
>> Message-ID: <49397D80.701@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Since McColo closed, we noticed the spam was far more intensive than
before.
>>
>> However, it seems the amount of spam is similar than than before.
>>
>> Do you feel the same ?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> RO
>
> It would seem that the sources of SPAM have merely moved since McColo
> was shut down and it's going to
> take some time for everyone's blackhole routes and RBL's to catch up.
> I have personally noticed a higher
> delivered spam content in my own email accounts.
>
> Peter
>
>
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