[109368] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: NAT66 and the subscriber prefix length
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Crist Clark)
Tue Nov 18 14:33:30 2008
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:33:01 -0800
From: "Crist Clark" <Crist.Clark@globalstar.com>
To: "Tim Durack" <tdurack@gmail.com>,
"nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <9e246b4d0811181103v3cd8570dw10059ad998e6a1a1@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
>>> On 11/18/2008 at 11:03 AM, "Tim Durack" <tdurack@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>wro=
te:
>=20
>> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, michael.dillon@bt.com wrote:
>>
>> Not long ago, ARIN changed the IPv6 policy so that
>>> residential subscribers could be issued with a /56
>>> instead of the normal /48 assignment. This was done
>>> so that ISPs with large numbers of subscriber sites
>>> would not exhaust their /32 (or larger) allocations
>>> too soon. Since these ISPs are allowed to assign
>>> a /56 to residential subscriber sites, their initial
>>> IPv6 allocation will last a lot longer and they won't
>>> have to apply for an additional allocation while
>>> everyone is getting up to speed with an IPv6 Internet.
>>>
>>
>> We returned our /32 for a /25 (with /22 being reserved) and current =
plan is
>> to hand out /48s to everybody (unless they need even more space, then
>> they'll have to apply).
>>
>> So, doing /56 to end users just because you happen to have a /32 right =
now
>> sounds like a bad plan, it doesn't take that many hours to get a larger
>> space if you can justify it (which wasn't that hard for us).
>>
>> We received our /32 (as a /35 I think) back in 2000 or so, policy has
>> changed since then, with RIPE it's not that hard to get a much larger =
space
>> with a long term growth plan. My hope is that we'll make do with this =
/22
>> space for at least 5-10 years (67 million customer /48s is quite a =
lot),
>> unless something really big happens, and then we'll just have to get an =
even
>> larger space.
>>
>> So message should be that /48 to end users is the way to go, and this
>> should suit residential and SME market without any additional administra=
tive
>> overhead depending on customer size.
>>
>> --
>> Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se=20
>>
>>
> This raises questions for me: we are a mixed enterprise/campus environmen=
t.
> Recently got a /45 assigned, so we have a /48 per site (it was some work =
to
> convince ARIN that fancy subnetting to make a /46 stretch a little =
further
> made no sense.)
A /45? I thought all allocations were on nibble borders for
IP6.ARPA considerations.
