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RE: [funsec] McColo: Major Source of Online Scams and Spams

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nick Newman)
Wed Nov 12 14:17:56 2008

Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:16:57 -0500
In-Reply-To: <6cd462c00811120953r4eac33bid0c719e96062a168@mail.gmail.com>
From: "Nick Newman" <NNewman@nw3c.org>
To: "Paul Ferguson" <fergdawgster@gmail.com>,
	"Kee Hinckley" <nazgul@somewhere.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

I do know that the CA AG office ignores any complaints received from the =
Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3), which bars many complaints =
state/local LE would have received from the public about McColo.  Law =
enforcement (in the US, anyway), by nature, is 99% reactive and 1% =
proactive; no complaints to LE results in no response from LE.  It's =
hard to tell if any local/state/federal agencies =
knew-about/were-investigating McColo (it was the same with Intercage), =
but the bigger question is: does it really matter?  How many cops does =
it take to throw a community lynching?

-- Nick

Nicholas R.=A0Newman
Computer Crimes Specialist
National White Collar Crime Center
1000 Technology Drive, Suite 2130
Fairmont, WV 26554
=A0
1-877-628-7674 x2244
nnewman@nw3c.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Ferguson [mailto:fergdawgster@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:54 PM
To: Kee Hinckley
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: [funsec] McColo: Major Source of Online Scams and Spams =
KnockedOffline (fwd)

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On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Kee Hinckley <nazgul@somewhere.com> =
wrote:

> After reading this, and the (Washington Post I believe--I'm away from =
my
> laptop right now) article on this, two things are bothering me.
>
> The article expressed a good deal of frustration with the (lack of) =
speed
> with which law enforcement has been tackling these issues. What wasn't
> clear was whether any attempt had been made to involve them prior to =
the
> shutdown.

Don't assume what you don't know. :-)

- - ferg

p.s. McColo's upstream providers are completely within their rights to
terminate connectivity if they feel that they have violated their
contractual terms of service.

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--=20
"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
 Engineering Architecture for the Internet
 fergdawgster(at)gmail.com
 ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/



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