[109087] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: On the subject of multihoming
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Charles Wyble)
Tue Nov 4 16:44:53 2008
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:44:41 -0800
From: Charles Wyble <charles@thewybles.com>
To: Colin Alston <karnaugh@karnaugh.za.net>
In-Reply-To: <4910B8E0.4030703@thewybles.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Charles Wyble wrote:
> Colin Alston wrote:
>> On 2008/11/04 10:32 PM Charles Wyble wrote:
>>> Obviously as they are consumer connections, I wouldn't get a BGP
>>> feed so would need to download a copy, which has the risk of stale
>>> data. Perhaps some sort of multihop BGP setup?
>>>
>>> I have done some research and found a lot of references to small
>>> site multihoming without BGP for link redundancy but not for traffic
>>> engineering.
>>
>> I've played with that before. Essentially just EBGP Multi-hop with
>> next-hop rewrites on various community prefixes. Of course I had
>> access to a donor feed, that is probably the largest hurdle.
>
> My first job was at a place with a direct ARIN allocation and BGP to
> Sprint and AT&T. I'm still friends with the remaining ops person and
> can probably setup a peering session with him. I also have another
> buddy with the ability to do BGP via Cogent.
>
>>
>> There is good use in general for a public no-distribute feed but I
>> have yet to find such a thing. Is there a reason for that, or could I
>> bribe my datacenter to give me a feed and then create my own public
>> server with some el-cheapo Quagga and a bag of rainbows for hope?
>
> Good question. Perhaps I could peer with my above mentioned sources and
> http://www.quagga.net/route-server.php or http://www.routeviews.org/
> (config instructions at http://www.routeviews.org/config.html)
>
> That would be a fairly diverse set of views and hopefully sufficient
> for my needs.
>
> By the way I have a wiki page up with the details (more or less what I
> outlined already) at http://www.socalwifi.net/index.php/Mesh_Experiment
>
> I will write everything up there as well as post back results here.
>
>
So changing my search terms a bit to utilizing bgp feeds outbound
traffic engineering, returns
http://www.caida.org/workshops/isma/0210/ISMAagenda.xml which seems to
be near what I want. It certainly provides some interesting reading and
ways to measure / analyze the necessary data.
