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Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Niels Bakker)
Tue Nov 4 12:30:42 2008

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:30:08 +0100
From: Niels Bakker <niels=nanog@bakker.net>
To: nanog@nanog.org
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* tomb@byrneit.net (Tomas L. Byrnes) [Tue 04 Nov 2008, 17:51 CET]:
>The concept of "Transit Free" is a political failure, not a technical 
>one.

Yeah, networks should be free!  And Cogent, if they don't get access to 
Sprint directly, should just set a default route over some public IX 
where Sprint is also present at to reach their network!!  And then hack 
their routers to do likewise.


>The protocols are designed, and the original concept behind the Internet 
>is, to propagate all reachability via all paths. IE to use Transit if 
>peering fails.

Yeah, the original concept of the internet.  Like classful IP routing.


>Not doing so is a policy decision that breaks the redundancy in the 
>original design.

Because the original design totally had in mind established players 
locking out cheaper newcomers and explicitly specified a maximum band 
where prices for transit had to exist inside of.

Please stop it.  We've had enough.


	-- Niels.

-- 
"We humans get marks for consistency. We always opt for
  civilization after exhausting the alternatives."
			-- Carl Guderian



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