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Re: Another driver for v6?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mikael Abrahamsson)
Thu Oct 30 03:10:37 2008

Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:10:26 +0100 (CET)
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: "David W. Hankins" <David_Hankins@isc.org>
In-Reply-To: <20081029232940.GC5212@isc.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, David W. Hankins wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 06:32:31PM -0400, Steven King wrote:
>> Does anyone see any benefits to beginning a small deployment of IPv6 now
>> even if its just for internal usage?
>
> It is almost lunacy to deploy IPv6 in a customer-facing sense (note
> for example Google's choice to put its AAAA on a separate FQDN).  At

Could you please elaborate on this point? My data presented
<http://www.ops.ietf.org/lists/v6ops/v6ops.2008/msg01582.html> indicates 
that there are very very few (the longer I collected the data, the better 
the ratio got) who cannot properly fetch a resource that has A/AAAA.

> this point, I'd say people are still trying to figure out how clients
> will migrate to IPv6.  Which seems like a pretty bad time to still be
> trying to figure that out, but ohwell.

6to4 and Teredo traffic is increasing very rapidly, so that seems to be 
one path taken right now:

<http://ipv6.tele2.net/mrtg/total.html>

(We have all our IPv6 related stats and info on <http://ipv6.tele2.net/>)

But yes, how to get native to residential users is still not hammered out.

> And of course you need to "run your own dog food" on internal LANs 
> before you start telling customers these IPv6 address thingies are 
> useful.

Quite, I think OSS/BSS is going to be a bigger challenge than actually 
moving the IPv6 packets.

> IPv6: It's kind of like storing dry food in preparation for the
>      apocalypse.

If you actually KNOW the apocalypse is coming (but not when), this is 
correct.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se


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