[108666] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: The DDOS problem & security BOF: Am i mistaken?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET)
Wed Oct 15 19:40:17 2008
From: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" <ml@t-b-o-h.net>
To: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:39:48 -0400 (EDT)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0810151823330.23787-100000@citation2.av8.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
>
> >> Vixie, Conrad, Manning, Woodcock, Curran, Plzak, Ed Lewis, etc all
> >> worked together at ARIN, and have had 22 ARIN employees attend NANOG,
> >> including the ARIN executive secretary. ARIN is giving NANOG $50,000
> >> checks, even though the Board members have undisclosed conflicts of
> >> interest. ARIN resource analysts have (and probably are now)
> >> attending NANOG. The resource analysts are the guys who make
> >> allocation decisions, so getting chummy with NANOG people is a
> >> conflict of interest in the making. So far, I've discovered two cases
> >> where ARIN has made allocations in 2 hours.
> >>
> >
> > Didn't you get banned temporarily from this list, then banned
> >for life + 5 years, your children and grandchildren also banned for
> >their lives + 5 years once before for all this?
>
> I was never temporarilly banned. I was banned in 2000 so that I couldn't
> gloat that the CFAA applied to ISPs. See
> http://www.iadl.org/nanog/nanog-story.html
>
> Looks like someone messed up. ;-)
>
Well, yes and no...........
I actually was thinking of the ARIN list that you had the temporary
ban on :
http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-discuss/2008-February/000897.html
and then the permanent ban :
http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-discuss/2008-June/001058.html
as for banning from NANOG, there is a message, purportedly from
you :
http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-discuss/2008-February/000890.html
contains "So Harris banned me from NANOG." . Not sure if thats the meeting,
the NANOG list, or one of the NANOG/Merit other lists. Also, in :
http://www.iadl.org/nanog/nanog-story.html
I see "So, effective May 4 2005, Harris again banned Anderson. Although
the new "reformed" rules require a limit of 6 months, Anderson remains banned
as of April 16th, 2006. It seems permanent."
but I think that refers to another NANOG group, dnsop.
Tuc/TBOH
