[10865] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BOOM! there goes WorldCom
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nathan Stratton)
Wed Jul 16 17:44:25 1997
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 17:31:18 +0000 (GMT)
From: Nathan Stratton <nathan@netrail.net>
To: "Dorian R. Kim" <dorian@blackrose.org>
cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970716165812.1487B-100000@thorn.blackrose.org>
On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Dorian R. Kim wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Nathan Stratton wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Golan Ben-Oni wrote:
> > > You should never trust what your sales people say. When designing your
> > > backbone, its important to ask them for your DLRs (design layout records)
> > > so that you can see physically, with your own eyes, the paths involved.
> >
> > I know this, I have a copy of the DLRs. What I am saying is Worldcom
> > changed the DLRs without letting us know, and now they all run over this
> > fiber cut. We request a copy of the DLRs on ALL our links. We started
> > this long ago when we had a MCI and Worldcom DS1 die because they went
> > over the same fiber.
>
> And you haven't checked since? In my experience, path redundancy doesn't stay
> that way. Either the first or second round of grooming in carrier network
> eliminates the path redundancy, and I don't know if it's possible to win
> against the transmissions people about that.. We've fought with carriers about
> that for a very long time, and didn't get anywhere..
Yes, the last time we checked was a little over a month ago. They show the
DLRs were changed last Friday.
Nathan Stratton President, NetRail,Inc.
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