[108429] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Google's PUE
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Golding)
Thu Oct 2 15:17:40 2008
From: Daniel Golding <dgolding@t1r.com>
To: Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET <ml@t-b-o-h.net>
In-Reply-To: <200810011906.m91J6JZk037578@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 15:17:02 -0400
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
On Oct 1, 2008, at 3:06 PM, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
>>
>>>> Personally, I think only a self-owned DC could get that low. A
>>>> general purpose DC would have too many inefficiencies since someone
>>>> like Equinix must have randomly sized cages, routers and servers,
>>>> custom-built suites, etc. By owning both sides, GOOG gets a boost.
>>>> But it's still frickin' amazing, IMHO.
>>>
>>> I wonder what it cost? :-)
>>
>> What cost to the environment of not doing it?
>>
>> OK, green hat off. :) Seriously, I doubt GOOG isn't seeing serious
>> savings from this over time. If they weren't why would they do it?
>>
> They seem to be very environment focused, so I'm sure doing
> anything that isn't is subject to scrutiny from the rest of the
> industry.
>
> Hopefully it won't come around to bite them. I had read an
> article on "The Planet" going as green as possible, then they had the
> huge outage and I'm sure negated 2-3 times what they had done to that
> point.
>
> Tuc/TBOH
>
The Planet had an outage because something blew up and the fire
department made them shut everything down. I wouldn't assume any sort
of linkage between efficient design and power savings, except that one
way to get very efficient design is to remove redundant components. I
don't think Google, or the Planet, or anyone else is doing that,
though.
