[108323] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Renesys Blog Article [Was: Re: the Intercage mess]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Henry Linneweh)
Sun Sep 28 00:39:15 2008
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:39:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Henry Linneweh <hrlinneweh@sbcglobal.net>
To: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>, Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org, nanog-post@rsuc.gweep.net
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
If a consensus can be reached here, we have seen a rise in this, that does =
raise concerns=0Aof a RIAA/MPAA type of mindset, which is detrimental=0A=C2=
=A0=0Avigilante Definition=C2=A0=C2=A0vigi=C2=B7lante (vij=E2=80=B2=C9=99 l=
an=E2=80=B2t=C4=93, -l=C3=A4n=E2=80=B2-) =0Anoun=0A=091. a member of a vigi=
lance committee=0A=092. any individual who acts outside of legal authority,=
often violently, to punish or avenge a crime, right a perceived wrong, etc=
.=0Avigi=C2=B7lan=C2=B7tism (vij=E2=80=B2=C9=99 lan=E2=80=B2tiz=E2=80=B2=C9=
=99m, -l=C3=A4n=E2=80=B2-; vij=E2=80=B2=C9=99 l=C9=99n tiz=E2=80=B2=C9=99m)=
=0Anoun=0Athe lawless, violent methods, spirit, etc. of vigilantes=0A=C2=
=A0=0Avigilantism Related Forms=0Avig=E2=80=B2i=C2=B7lan=E2=80=B2=C2=B7tist=
adjective=0A=C2=A0=0Avigilantism Usage Examples =0ANoun used with modifier=
=0A=09* 'Internet: But this has come under fire from many who see it as an =
example of 'Internet vigilantism ' that could destabilize Internet trading.=
=0AAdjective modifier=0A=09* self-appointed: We must, moreover, take actio=
n which is firm enough to pre-empt action by self-appointed vigilantes. =3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A=0A=0A=
=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>=0ATo: P=
aul Ferguson <fergdawgster@gmail.com>=0ACc: nanog@nanog.org; nanog-post@rsu=
c.gweep.net=0ASent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:02:21 PM=0ASubject: Re:=
Renesys Blog Article [Was: Re: the Intercage mess]=0A=0AOn Wed, 24 Sep 200=
8, Paul Ferguson wrote:=0A> Just a side-note: Rensys has an interesting blo=
g article up today on this=0A> Atrivo/Intercage "mess":=0A>=0A> http://www.=
renesys.com/blog/2008/09/internet_vigilantism_1.shtml=0A>=0A> FYI,=0A=0AI h=
ave but one comment.=0A=0AThere is a difference between Vigilantism as it i=
s perceived today and =0AVigilantism as it is in the dictionary. It means=
=0Aneighborhood watch.=0A=0AWhen the Police is not around, that is somethin=
g you need. "It's for the =0Achildren".=0A=0AAll in all, very nice blog pos=
t. While I feel I can not yet fully comment =0Aon the whole Atrivo / Interc=
age depeering movement, there is an underlying=0Astrategy to consider. I wi=
ll comment at a later date.=0A=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Gadi.
