[108184] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: the Intercage mess
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Blake Pfankuch)
Wed Sep 24 23:24:28 2008
From: Blake Pfankuch <bpfankuch@cpgreeley.com>
To: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster@gmail.com>, William Pitcock
<nenolod@systeminplace.net>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:24:15 -0600
In-Reply-To: <6cd462c00809242014h3d5bd2bev61c8c710f0b4d40a@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Ok, as this seems to have turned into a pissing match, can we slow this dow=
n a bit? 50+ emails a day for a week and nothing good of it? Yes yes we h=
ave purged the internet of evil. Instead of all the bickering and finger p=
ointing, let's do something worthwhile like helping identify the root of th=
e problem. So abuse@ wasn't monitored previously. It will be soon if you =
would give it a chance. They are working on it, so I saw we lighten up on =
the pitchfork gig. Everyone put down the torches and stop screaming witch.=
Let's give them some time to actually act on a lot of the information the=
y are getting from anti-abuse, and anything usable they might have been abl=
e to filter out of this flood of a week on nanog. Perhaps we could revisit=
this in a month, not as a bash and finger point but more as a "hey here is=
one more thing you could do to help keep your network clean."
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Ferguson [mailto:fergdawgster@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:14 PM
To: William Pitcock
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: the Intercage mess
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On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 8:10 PM, William Pitcock
<nenolod@systeminplace.net> wrote:
>
> I said _new_ approach. I agree that it was overdue, but they are being
> cooperative with the anti-abuse community, so I think it is appropriate
> to give them an opportunity to deliver on their promise. If they fail,
> then shut them off again.
That sounds reasonable to me.
>
> Esthost are nullrouted as of this morning. Even their administrative
> network is nullrouted.
>
That's only because after they tried to set up shop in NL, they were outed.
As I said, many eyes are watching -- and not just Atrivo/Intercage either.
Cheers,
- - ferg
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"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
Engineering Architecture for the Internet
fergdawgster(at)gmail.com
ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
