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Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Russell Mitchell)
Sun Sep 21 18:17:11 2008

Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:17:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Russell Mitchell <russm2k8@yahoo.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

William:=0ATo date, I have never heard of the "DroneBL". I have NEVER recei=
ved any report from any entity=A0referring to that.=A0The last report for a=
 bot on our network was an EggDrop bot a week or so ago. The report=A0was f=
rom the IRC Network Operator, and asked to have it=A0removed from his netwo=
rk because it seemed=A0to be=A0'forgotten'. It was sitting in a dead channe=
l=A0that hasn't had any activity for months.=0AHe did NOT claim any abuse.=
=0A=0AI'll be=A0more then happy to monitor DroneBL, or have digests or repo=
rts from them in regards to our network.=0A=0A-----=0A=0AMatt:=0AIt's very =
sad that your=A0PROUD of=A0you contribution=A0to the=A0supposed "white pape=
r" on our company.=A0I'd like to know, was any of your "contribution" to th=
e report altered, or mis-represented, or are you=A0truly unaware of how fal=
se the information you provided was?=0ACare to have verified it? or are you=
 a Spamhaus admin like John Reid who has that magic stick to make a claim a=
nd attack anyone who objects to it with the truth?=0A=0AIf you want to see =
REAL Cyber Crime, take a look at what you caused Matt. Take a good look at =
Spamhaus, and tell me that they're entirely legitimate with their business.=
 Oh, I forgot, they're a "Not-for-profit organization" that DOESN'T do busi=
ness in the USA, nor has any clientel in the USA.=0A=0A-----=0A=0AThere is =
absolutely no sense in arguing and biquering over all this crap that you gu=
ys have caused with your misinformation and false claims.=0AI don't know ho=
w to make this any simpler:=A0If you see abuse from our network, report it =
to US. If you report it to an upstream, they'll just drop it back down to u=
s. Obviously, we can't do anything right now with our network being OFFLINE=
.. But I'm dying to see who comes up with some abuse that originated from ou=
r network in this downtime! Who will be first!? Spamhaus?=0A=0AThanks again=
 for all your time and comments. Hopefully,=A0you all will straighten up yo=
ur act, cause clearly and truthfully, we've been straight the entire time.=
=0A=A0---=0ARussell Mitchell=0A=0AInterCage, Inc.=0A=0A=0A      

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