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Re: InterCage, Inc. (NOT Atrivo)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lamar Owen)
Thu Sep 11 21:12:16 2008

Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:11:32 -0400
From: Lamar Owen <lowen@pari.edu>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <5D20455D-01B1-4406-AAEE-FFD9654DDF59@ianai.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

On Thursday 11 September 2008 18:37:59 Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> > On Thursday 11 September 2008 06:23:29 list-nanog@pwns.ms wrote:
> >> This is not a court. In court, if you are determined guilty a large
> >> punishment may be exacted
> >
> > Depeering is not a large punishment?
> >
> > In the internet world, mass depeering / de-transitting like we've
> > see in this
> > instance is akin to capital punishment.  By vigilantes.  The US Old
> > West
> > redux.
>
> You are confused.

No, I'm not, actually.  As you say, it's every man (peer) for himself; is this 
not a digital analog to the dynamic of the Old West?

If I have either a peering agreement or a transit arrangement with a written 
contract, then that contract supports my 'rights' under that contract 
persuant to my responsibilities being fulfilled.  

But here on NANOG it sure looked like the gunfight at the OK Corral earlier as 
the posse went after the bad guys.  And, well, yes, the alleged 'bad guys' 
might have deserved the penalty.  But it was sure an interesting dynamic to 
watch.  Go back and read the whole thread; it is very enlightening.

But you don't have to get all defensive about it.


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