[107711] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: InterCage, Inc. (NOT Atrivo)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Thu Sep 11 18:53:07 2008
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:52:51 +0900
From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
To: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <5D20455D-01B1-4406-AAEE-FFD9654DDF59@ianai.net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
>> In the internet world, mass depeering / de-transitting like we've
>> see in this instance is akin to capital punishment. By vigilantes.
>> The US Old West redux.
> Connecting to my network is a PRIVILEGE, not a right. You lose a
> criminal case, you lose rights (e.g. freedom to walk outside).
> Disconnecting you from my network is not denying any of your rights.
>
> There is no law or even custom stopping me from asking you to prove
> you are worthy to connect to my network. You don't want to prove it,
> that's your right, just as it is my right to not connect to you.
>
> Mind if I ask why you think you have any right to connect to my
> network if I do not want you to do so? For _any_ reason, including
> not showing me "legit" customers, political affiliation, or even the
> color of your hat?
amidst all this high flyin' political theory discussion of rights, there
is an elephant in the room. as conditions to merger/purchase, there
were legal restrictions placed on one or more significant operators
regarding [de-]peering (i.e. your statement above is significantly
incorrect). my altzheimer's device tells me that those restrictions end
2008.12.31. expect change.
randy
