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Re: BCP38 dismissal

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jo Rhett)
Thu Sep 11 03:55:28 2008

From: Jo Rhett <jrhett@netconsonance.com>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
In-Reply-To: <48C8CDB5.7050004@psg.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:55:21 -0700
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

On Sep 11, 2008, at 12:50 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> Having no hosts, I can't do much about that other than ...
>
> i suggest you go back to the mail to which you responded obscenely
> vilifying the poster who was specifically saying he worried about his
> host before bcp38.  that was specifically the subject.

"host" in that context was his router, which makes your comment make  
less sense.  (having never seen a big iron router become a client in a  
botnet, myself)  He was talking about big iron control plane policy  
controls.   You must have missed the context.

>> Given that I know of no provider larger than us using BCP38 on every
>> port
>
> well, that sets an upper bound on the extent of your knowledge, eh.   
> and
> not a very high one.


I just had a deep discussion with Verio about this very problem in  
their network last week.  Verio claims no timetable for consistent  
BCP38 deployment.

You want to stop being rude, and start making positive assertations  
about things you know?  I'd love to be wrong, but I've got a whole lot  
of experience on this topic.   If you know better, educate the rest of  
us.

-- 
Jo Rhett
Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source  
and other randomness




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