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Re: BCP38 dismissal

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Thu Sep 4 16:30:49 2008

From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
To: NANOG list <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0809041436590.5182@linuxbox.org>
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:30:44 -0400
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

On Sep 4, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Gadi Evron wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Jo Rhett wrote:
>> On Sep 4, 2008, at 7:24 AM, James Jun wrote:
>>> Indeed... In today's internet, protecting your own box (cp-policer/ 
>>> control
>>> plane filtering) is far more important IMO than implementing BCP38  
>>> when much
>>> of attack traffic comes from legitimate IP sources anyway (see  
>>> botnets).
>>
>>
>> I'm sorry, but nonsense statements such as these burn the blood.   
>> Sure, yes, protecting yourself is so much more important than  
>> protecting anyone else.
>>
>> Anyone else want to stand up and join the "I am an asshole" club?
>
> "I'm an a??hole!" :o)
> (lotsa folks get corporate "bad words" filters, here).
>
> Seriously though, everyone should take care of their own end first.  
> The problem is Jo doesn't seem to be in the loopon attacks from  
> recent years, but I am unsure he would change his mind if he was/

Gadi,

Do you really want to suggest to people that they not implement BCP38?

-- 
TTFN,
patrick



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