[107407] in North American Network Operators' Group

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: ingress SMTP

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Justin Scott)
Wed Sep 3 12:32:49 2008

Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:32:39 -0400
From: Justin Scott <jscott@gravityfree.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <48BEB615.3060202@restontech.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format.

--------------ms020606010500090807040307
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

> Why don't you set the alternate ports up as the defaults when the
> customer signs up?

Excellent question and unfortunately I don't have an answer.  I will run 
that one by management as it is an obviously great idea now that you 
mention it.

> We use TLS on port 587 and SSL on 465, most mail clients default to
> these ports when you click the "TLS" or "SSL" box. Bonus-- we tell our
> clients that "we only support encrypted access to their mail". They
> understand.

We also support SSL access for SMTP and POP, so that could be a 
possibility as well.

I appreciate the feedback on this from everyone.  I'm still not 100% 
convinced that a blanket port block is the answer, but then again I'm 
not an ISP so my opinion shouldn't be on the top of the list of 
considerations either.  I do have some things to think about for new 
customers though <g>.


-Justin Scott, GravityFree


--------------ms020606010500090807040307
Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s"
Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
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--------------ms020606010500090807040307--


home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post