[107383] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: GLBX De-Peers Intercage [Was: RE: Washington Post: Atrivo/Intercag
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric Brunner-Williams)
Tue Sep 2 22:29:48 2008
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:29:07 -0400
From: Eric Brunner-Williams <brunner@nic-naa.net>
To: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <bb0e440a0809021902k4dbba9e3vf1b747d583b8c2fb@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: "Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr." <LarrySheldon@cox.net>, NANOG <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Suresh,
In a parallel universe we're considering profiles for "licit use" of=20
some mechanism. One element of a multi-part test to distinguish "licit"=20
from "illicit" was the presence or absence of known signatures for=20
malware. After some thought it was understood that this test was=20
equivalent to the node subject to the test being "cleaner" than the=20
average for network attached consumer devices, and therefore not realisti=
c.
Cheers,
Eric
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> There's this concept known as "dual criminality" in such situations,
> when you're looking at international prosecutions (or whatever).
>
> So, while les=E9 majest=E9 - insult to the king - is a crime in thailan=
d
> (liable to get you lynched before you get prosecuted, at that) that
> doesnt mean the thai authorities can do much about youtube videos ..
>
> On the other hand, child pornography, malware, illegal sale of
> prescription narcotics etc are generally criminal acts around the
> world.
>
> regards
> srs
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Steven M. Bellovin <smb@cs.columbia.edu=
> wrote:
> =20
>> I mostly agree with you -- but I get very worried about who defines
>> "scum". Consider the following cases, which I will assert are not ver=
y
>> far-fetched:
>>
>> (a) China labels Falun Gong as "scum" and demands that international
>> ISPs not carry it if they want to do business in China
>> =20
>
>
>
> =20
