[107253] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gadi Evron)
Thu Aug 28 14:30:30 2008
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:30:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>
To: Anton Kapela <tkapela@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <2e9d8ae50808280816w140d1b71h90fd404a8bcb873a@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@merit.edu>
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Thank you for making your presentation.
Gadi.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Anton Kapela wrote:
> I thought I'd toss in a few comments, considering it's my fault that
> few people are understanding this thing yet.
>
>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> People (especially spammers) have been hijacking networks for a while
>
> I'd like to 'clear the air' here. Clearly, I failed at Defcon, WIRED,
> AFP, and Forbes.
>
> We all know sub-prefix hijacking is not news. What is news? Using
> as-path loop detection to selectively blackhole the hijacked route -
> which creates a transport path _back to_ the target.
>
> That's all it is, nothing more. All but the WIRED follow-up article
> missed this point *completely.* They over-represented the 'hijacking'
> aspects, while only making mention of the 'interception' potential.
>
> Lets end this thread with the point I had intended two weeks ago:
> we've presented a method by which all the theory spewed by academics
> can be actualized in a real network (the big-I internet) to effect
> interception of data between (nearly) arbitrary endpoints from
> (nearly) any edge or stub AS. That, I think, is interesting.
>
> -Tk
>
