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Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space by

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (brett watson)
Thu Aug 14 14:32:37 2008

From: brett watson <brett@the-watsons.org>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <48A477B5.1080803@uk.clara.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:32:28 -0700
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

On Aug 14, 2008, at 11:21 AM, David Freedman wrote:

>
>> but, why wouldn't something like formally requiring
>> customers/peers/transits/etc to have radb objects as a 'requirement'
>> for peering/customer bgp services
>>
>
> Step 1 : Enforce IRR for customers *now*.

Right, but I think the bigger issue is not just that "data is in the  
IRR" but rather "the data is there, and "some organization" has  
validated that 1) the "owner" is authentic, 2) they own the prefixes  
they entered, 3) they are authorized to originate the prefixes, and 4)  
the policies they entered are valid and agreed to by the other parties."

We have to be able to *trust* the data in the IRR, which I assume is  
one of the biggest impediments to being used by everyone: who's going  
to validate all that data and how will they do it?

-b


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