[106744] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Coop Peering Fabric??
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Deepak Jain)
Tue Aug 12 00:51:24 2008
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:51:11 -0400
From: Deepak Jain <deepak@ai.net>
To: Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net>
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Cc: nanog list <nanog@merit.edu>
Reply-To: deepak@ai.net
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Bill Woodcock wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008, Deepak Jain wrote:
> > A "coop", best-effort switch fabric colo'd at a few sites would allow
> > participants to peer off traffic at a price of the order of a single
> > cross-connect (~$500/month per 10G port is possible, maybe less),
>
> $0/month per 10G port is common enough.
>
> https://www.seattleix.net/faq.htm
>
> Why pay someone else to let you use an Ethernet switch? Presumably if
> you can configure BGP, plugging into an Ethernet switch is well within
> your core competency.
>
The only point of a fee would be to provide better than
"when-we-get-around-to-it" support. Obviously there are ways to achieve
this without a fee. There are other benefits too [like the ability to
have a real non-profit structure, insurances, and others to address the
inevitable subpoena, wire-tapping request, CNN reporter, etc].
The economization of cross-connects (a large percentage of a certain
colo provider's gross revenues and profit growth) does NOT occur when
each provider sets up its own L2 switch for its peers to connect to --
unless they can peer with each other over that switch too. Which brings
you back to a coop.
Deepak
