[106405] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Arbitrary de-peering
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jon Lewis)
Mon Jul 28 12:51:17 2008
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:51:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org>
To: William Waites <ww@styx.org>
In-Reply-To: <E7EBD2F5-8AAA-485A-9304-BCFFE249CD63@styx.org>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, William Waites wrote:
> Surprising because, Cogent (or Telia, but from what you say here, looks
> like Cogent), presumably put themselves in a breach of contract position
> with their (end-user or stub AS) customers who one would imagine have
> bought "Internet service" from them. Given that they have some
> reasonably big/important customers it is surprising that they would take
> that risk, and even more surprising that it didn't bite them too hard.
> By maybe I am just easily surprised.
But, AFAICT, Cogent has done this before and even combined it with the
publicity stunt of offering free peering to any single-homed Level3
customer for a year.
>> Tier 1 means you don't buy transit, no?
>
> Maybe a slightly revised definition of Tier 1 is in order -- a provider
> that doesn't buy transit and doesn't sell to end-users or stub systems.
I don't know that you'll find a Tier 1 that doesn't sell to end-user
networks. It's kind of what they do. Once you start buying transit, all
the bigger networks probably figure they can get you to "pay us too."
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