[10606] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Internet Backbone Index
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Leber)
Thu Jul 10 17:15:34 1997
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:55:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Leber <mleber@he.net>
Reply-To: Mike Leber <mleber@he.net>
To: Gary Zimmerman <garyz@savvis.com>
cc: Sean Donelan <SEAN@SDG.DRA.COM>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <19970710124749.AAA3749@rock>
On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Gary Zimmerman wrote:
> You talk about engineering good networks, why then use something that is
> unmanaged and uses poor technology and poor engineer designs in a MAE or
> NAP? Where is most of the packet lost on the internet? MAEs and NAPs.
This is gratutitous and misleading to the journalists and other
non-network engineers here.
The packet loss at NAPs and MAEs is caused by providers not upgrading the
size or number of connections they have to/from the various exchange
points they are experiencing problems at.
An example of this disingenous usage of exchanges is Sprint's completely
saturated T1 connection to CIX. There are many other examples. The
solution is to not use those routes.
If a provider is leaking bad routes and flaps continously, would you peer
with them? Likewise, if a provider has a notoriously saturated connection
to an exchange does it them become a (misleading) casebook example of why
exchange points are bad?
No and No.
Mike.
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