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RE: Line rate gigabit router/switch options

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Huff)
Thu Jul 17 16:12:13 2008

From: Matthew Huff <mhuff@ox.com>
To: "'Paul Kelly :: Blacknight'" <paul@blacknight.com>, "'nanog@nanog.org'"
	<nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:10:56 -0400
In-Reply-To: <D175CB0A04FE634587DA0987F3C423101EDEA631FC@iddawg.blacknight.local>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

We currently have 7204VXRs with the NGE-G1 controller. That's rated at 1Gbi=
t/s and we aren't running that high yet. What we are running into is micro-=
bursts that overrun the ethernet's fifo buffer due to the cpu routing (even=
 though it's CEF based and cisco has verified the configuration). We need s=
omething that is hardware switched such as the cisco 7600/6500 or the Found=
ry line as some have pointed out.

As far as our netflow requirements are, we need to be able to determine ave=
rage line rates for different protocols/ and different multicast channels (=
not realtime). We use Fluke Network's NetFlow Tracker and it works with sFl=
ow, IPFIX, Netflow and other netflow like protocols, so it looks like almos=
t any of the hardware suggested will work.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Kelly :: Blacknight [mailto:paul@blacknight.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:03 PM
To: Matthew Huff; 'nanog@nanog.org'
Subject: RE: Line rate gigabit router/switch options

Hi Matthew,

The Juniper J6350 boxes are both cost effective and are claimed to do line =
2Gbit/s of IMIX traffic I think.

We've several deployed between multitple DCs in Dublin and a load of J4350 =
at different layers. Stick 2GB of ram into each one and they'll go a long w=
ay.

Paul

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Huff [mailto:mhuff@ox.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:21 PM
> To: 'nanog@nanog.org'
> Subject: Line rate gigabit router/switch options
>
> We have a pair of cisco 7204VXR routers connecting to STFI receiving
> market data. At peak periods micro-bursts of unicast and multicast
> data overrun the Ethernet fifo buffer due to the 7200 being a cpu
> based router. A 7600 router would be a good replacement but it isn't
> cost effective. We need BGP, rip, pim multicast and netflow. Since the
> connections are all metro Ethernet, Cisco has suggested looking at the
> 3750 switch platform that does BGP since all of the packets are
> hardware switched, but it doesn't due L3 netflow. I've been doing
> cisco for too long and was wondering what the cost effective options
> are with other vendors or even other possible cisco solutions.
>
>
> ----
> Matthew Huff       | One Manhattanville Rd
> OTA Management LLC | Purchase, NY 10577
> www.ox.com         | Phone: 914-460-4039
> aim: matthewbhuff  | Fax:   914-460-4139
>
>


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