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Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Mon Jun 30 13:05:59 2008

To: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" <ml@t-b-o-h.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:55:53 EDT."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:54:40 -0400
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:55:53 EDT, "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" said:

> 220 Sending HELO/EHLO constitutes acceptance of this agreement

Even in a UCITA state that has onerous rules regarding shrink-wrapped EULA
terms, I think you'd have a very hard time getting a court to enforce an
alleged contract based on this.  And it's different from the usual suggestion
to put "all activity may be monitored" in your telnet/ssh login banners, because
there's an expectation that the human will look at a login banner when they
login, but there's no expectation that an SMTP server will look at the 220
banner any further than checking the first digit is a '2' (go read the section
on SMTP reply codes in RFC2821).

Feel free to cite any relevant case law (in fact, even the case law on
login banners read by humans is a tad skimpy - in most cases, it does nothing
for intruders, but it protects you from your own users complaining their
privacy was violated)...

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