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Re: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re:

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Mon Jun 23 16:30:36 2008

To: Steven Champeon <schampeo@hesketh.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:28:04 EDT."
	<20080623182804.GC2693@hesketh.com>
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:29:59 -0400
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:28:04 EDT, Steven Champeon said:
> Now, if the entire 'Net moved to a cloud computing model, I could agree
> with Paul that this would be the end of IP reputation. But I'm only
> aware of two such services (Amazon EC2 and Media Temple's
> gridserver.com) in widespread use, so I haven't bothered to come up with
> a new classification for them, and treat them as essentially dynamic
> (with gridserver.com also classified as 'webhost').

One could argue that the "botnets for rent" business model is in more widespread
use than either EC2 or gridserver...

I'm unclear whether that statement needs a smiley or not...


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