[105346] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Latest instalment of the "hijacked /16s" story
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Wed Jun 18 08:25:50 2008
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
To: nanog-post@rsuc.gweep.net
In-Reply-To: <20080618115722.GA84429@gweep.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:25:39 -0400
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
On Jun 18, 2008, at 7:57 AM, Joe Provo wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:59:21PM -0700, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:
> [snip]
>> "See no evil, hear no evil, fear no evil"
>
> The (human) operators who cared have been pushed out by the
> (coprorate) operators who would rather disavow responsibility,
> turn up quickly, and book the revenue instead of vetting any
> customer claims for basis in fact or reason. Customer
> filtering -even when black hats drive an AS- is Not Hard if
> the backbones (nets) displayed actual backbone (spine).
I would argue the same for any/all security issues. If people would
just shut off $VALUE, we'd have a lot fewer problems on the network.
I will concede the problem is making it scale and viable for some
parties. The ones that don't make the inherent security of the global
network a priority are dragging the average down.
- jared
VALUE = ( infected host ip/customer, route leaker/hijacker,
nonfiltering customer, ... )
