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Re: Best utilizing fat long pipes and large file transfer

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kevin Oberman)
Thu Jun 12 22:11:32 2008

To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:02:31 +0900."
	<4851B917.50306@psg.com> 
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:11:06 -0700
From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
X-To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

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> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:02:31 +0900
> From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
> 
> > The idea is to use tuned proxies that are close to the source and
> > destination and are optimized for the delay. Local systems can move data
> > through them without dealing with the need to tune for the
> > delay-bandwidth product. Note that this "man in the middle" may not
> > play well with many security controls which deliberately try to prevent
> > it, so you still may need some adjustments.
> 
> and for those of us who are addicted to simple rsync, or whatever over
> ssh, you should be aware of the really bad openssh windowing issue.

Actually, OpenSSH has a number of issues that restrict performance. Read
about them at <http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/>

Pittsburgh Supercomputer Center fixed these problems and on FreeBSD, you
can get these by replacing the base OpenSSH with the openssh-portable
port and select the HPN (High Performance Networking) and OVERWRITE_BASE
options. I assume other OSes can deal with this or you can get the
patches directly from:
<http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/openssh-5.0p1-hpn13v3.diff.gz>

The port may also be built to support SmartCards which we require for
authentication. 
-- 
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634
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