[105027] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: amazonaws.com?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay R. Ashworth)
Wed Jun 4 13:25:47 2008
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 13:25:28 -0400
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <483EF1A0.9080103@bogus.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:10:40AM -0700, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> Barry Shein wrote:
> > > Equating port 25 use with domestic terrorism is specious.
> > >
> > > Ammonium nitrate requires requires some care in handling regardless of
> > > your intentions,see for exmple the oppau or texas city disasters.
> >
> >And how different is that from the million+ strong zombie botnets? Who
> >owns (not pwns) those zombie'd systems and what were their intentions?
>
> Well let's see. The texas city disaster is/was considered the worst
> industrial accident in american history. 581 people killed by an
> explosive yield of about 2 kilotons. The secondary effects includes
> fires in many of the chemical facilities in Galveston and a swath of
> destruction that reached up to 40 miles inland...
>
> http://www.local1259iaff.org/disaster.html
>
> So no, I don't think internet attached hosts can casually equated with
> the destructive potential of a pile of fertilizer at least not in the
> context described.
One word: SCADA.
Yes, in point of fact, I think it *is* reasonable to evaluate potential
threats to "just some PCs getting pwned" in terms of physical damage
on grander scales.
It's not just about spam, or fraudulent credit charges.
Cheers,
-- jra
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