[104890] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: amazonaws.com?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel Jaeggli)
Thu May 29 14:10:57 2008
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:10:40 -0700
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
To: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
In-Reply-To: <18494.56703.315361.140476@world.std.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Barry Shein wrote:
> On May 29, 2008 at 06:46 joelja@bogus.com (Joel Jaeggli) wrote:
> > Dorn Hetzel wrote:
> > > Yeah, there was a day when anyone could buy a pickup truck full of
> > > ammonium nitrate fertilizer from a random feed store and not attract any
> > > attention at all, now, maybe not. Just like port 25, it has plenty of
> > > legitimate uses, and some more problematic ones.
> >
> > Equating port 25 use with domestic terrorism is specious.
> >
> > Ammonium nitrate requires requires some care in handling regardless of
> > your intentions,see for exmple the oppau or texas city disasters.
>
> And how different is that from the million+ strong zombie botnets? Who
> owns (not pwns) those zombie'd systems and what were their intentions?
Well let's see. The texas city disaster is/was considered the worst
industrial accident in american history. 581 people killed by an
explosive yield of about 2 kilotons. The secondary effects includes
fires in many of the chemical facilities in Galveston and a swath of
destruction that reached up to 40 miles inland...
http://www.local1259iaff.org/disaster.html
So no, I don't think internet attached hosts can casually equated with
the destructive potential of a pile of fertilizer at least not in the
context described.
