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Re: [NANOG] Charter Communications going to sniff traffic

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu May 15 09:37:12 2008

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
To: "Blake Pfankuch" <bpfankuch@cpgreeley.com>
In-Reply-To: <97E08945C0C1024FA818C68D6F252D650206B646@exserver.cpgreeley.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 06:34:25 -0700
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

I've found that using SSL for all my SMTP and IMAP transactions
and not entering personally identifying information into non-SSL
web pages greatly reduces the amount of harvesting results I see.

As to Charter, I opt out by simply not purchasing anything from them.
It seems to work far better than bothering with their silly cookie
process.

Owen

On May 15, 2008, at 5:31 AM, Blake Pfankuch wrote:

> I noticed this as well with a windows mobile device and activesync  =

> over the ail.  Enforcing SSL communication seems to have fixed it,  =

> as I no longer get these after doing that.  Of course this assumes  =

> that your mail server does not need plain text authentication.  I  =

> noticed this a lot when I was flying back and forth from Houston and  =

> DFW out of Denver.  Never identified the culprit of who was  =

> harvesting but....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jean-Michel Planche [mailto:jmp@witbe.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:47 PM
> To: Jake Matthews
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: [NANOG] Charter Communications going to sniff traffic  =

> foradvertising?
>
> In same spirit, something worst I think ...
> If you are in some airport with a GSM/Wifi phone, you are going to
> receive a mail, from local Wifi provider to explain you how to reach
> his (local wifi) network.
> Tested in Roissy / France, with iPhone. iPhone will switch from edge
> to wifi connection. I think that some application try to reach their
> server (like mail) and local provider sniff differents things (user
> name / mail sure but what about passwd ??) to send you back an email.
> Interesting ...
>
>
>
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>
>
> Le 14 mai 08 =E0 22:31, Jake Matthews a =E9crit :
>
>> Apparently Charter is going to packetsniff its users and use that for
>> commercial purposes.
>>
>> Looks like the only way to somewhat opt out is by getting a cookie  =

>> set
>> at the below link - which is not only a dumb idea, but still - not
>> even
>> https.
>> http://connect.charter.com/cas/portal/settings/privacyoptout.aspx
>>
>> Anyones thoughts on this?
>>
>> -j
>>
>>
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