[104417] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: [NANOG] Alcatel-Lucent
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nathan Ward)
Tue May 13 20:02:36 2008
From: Nathan Ward <nanog@daork.net>
To: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <81DFECD1-D0CA-4B21-B06F-76AB291A8434@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 12:02:19 +1200
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On 14/05/2008, at 10:37 AM, Phil Bedard wrote:
> The 5260 is actually a decent NMS
> which is something I never thought I'd say about a NMS, although the
> pricing model isn't very good.
Yeah, I'll agree with that. I've raved about the 5620SAM (not to be
confused with the 5620NM, which manage ATM etc. boxes) for a while.
It's the only NMS I've seen [1] that exposes /everything/ to the end
user. If someone updates stuff on the CLI, a trap is send, and the
graphical display updates within seconds, even for what you'd think
were really obscure things. The dev work for these products is done in
parallel I believe, instead of as a separate product line.
As with most vendor specific NMSs, you want to use 7x50 boxes
exclusively for a certain function. I.e. 7x50 only boxes on the edge.
The 7x50's have some kinda weird ways of doing things, and you really
want to do a training course to understand how they work - they are
quite a big paradigm change, and you'll end up doing things sub-
optimally unless you understand how they're supposed to function. The
major thing is the config is service oriented. I.e. on a traditional
box, you configure a bunch of parameters all over the place, and a
certain service pops out. With these Alcatel-Lucent boxes, you
configure a service, and the parameters are implied somewhat.
Interop is fine, but you'll find that many of the knobs are called
different things to what you're used to - mostly as a function of that
paradigm change.
Ask for a v6 roadmap. Last time I looked (~ a year ago) there were
some strange limitations, for example, a surprisingly small max v6
routing table.
--
Nathan Ward
[1] Admittedly, my experience with other NMS's is heavily tarnished by
Dorado RMC. Please hold while I hug myself and rock back and forward
in my chair for a bit.
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