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Re: Problems sending mail to yahoo?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Suresh Ramasubramanian)
Sun Apr 13 23:42:36 2008

Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:59:38 +0530
From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <ops.lists@gmail.com>
To: "Geo." <geoincidents@nls.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <153F36B5FCC04DF78560285C9BB2070D@control3>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


1. They are not complaints as such. They are what AOL users click report spam on

2. They are sent in a standard format - http://www.mipassoc.org/arf/ -
and if you weed out the obvious (separate forwarding traffic out
through another IP, and ditto for bounce traffic), then you will find
that - for actual ISPs - actual spam reports will far outweigh the
amount of misclicked reports.

3. As I said, its in ARF and that's machine parseable and you can get
stats from it.

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Geo. <geoincidents@nls.net> wrote:
>  When someone like AOL offloads their user complaints of spams to all the
> abuse@ addresses instead of verifying that they actually are spams before
> sending off complaints, is it any surprise that everyone else is refusing to
> do their jobs for them?
>
>  The reason abuse@ addresses are useless is because what is being sent to
> them is useless.

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