[103761] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Problems sending mail to yahoo?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Greco)
Sun Apr 13 22:29:59 2008
From: Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:18:52 -0500 (CDT)
In-Reply-To: <20080414021840.GD535@skywalker.creative.net.au> from "Adrian Chadd" at Apr 14, 2008 10:18:40 AM
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2008, Joe Greco wrote:
> > browsers such as Firefox and Thunderbird. But it is a LARGE paradigm
> > shift, and it doesn't even solve every problem with the e-mail system.
> >
> > I am unconvinced that there aren't smaller potential paradigm shifts that
> > could be made. However...
>
> There already has been a paradigm shift. University students ("college" for you
> 'merkins) use facebook, myspace (less now, thankfully!) and IMs as their
> primary online communication method. A number of students at my university
> use email purely because the university uses it for internal systems
> and communication, and use the above for everything else.
>
> I think you'll find that "we" are the paradigm shift that needs to happen.
> The younger people have already moved on. :)
I believe this is functionally equivalent to the "block 25 and consider
SMTP dead" FUSSP.
It's worth noting that each "newer" system is being systematically attacked
as well. It isn't really a solution, it's just changing problem platforms.
The abuse remains.
... JG
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Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
"We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I
won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN)
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.