[103667] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Problems sending mail to yahoo?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Edward B. DREGER)
Thu Apr 10 15:11:30 2008
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:29:11 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Edward B. DREGER" <eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <200804101730.m3AHU6FE009874@world.std.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
BS> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:30:06 -0400 (EDT)
BS> From: Barry Shein
BS> Is it just us or are there general problems with sending email to
BS> yahoo in the past few weeks? Our queues to them are backed up though
BS> they drain slowly.
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BS> Just wondering if this was a widespread problem or are we just so
BS> blessed, and any insights into what's going on over there.
Not only "been there, done that", but "am there, doing that".
We admin the server for a list in which one person sends out a weekly
post. Subscriber base is about 14,000 people, with around 2000 of those
subscribers using Yahoo boxes.
"Excessive" bounces trigger automatic unsubscribes. Although Yahoo
readership accounts for 14% of subscribers, it's not uncommon for 98% of
automated unsubscribes to be Yahoo-based... followed by Yahoo-using
people sending list-admin requests asknig why they were dropped, and
wanting to sign back up.
Following URLs in Yahoo's 4xx codes gives virtually-useless information.
The easiest fix to date has been for people to use less-presumptive
email services.
Eddy
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DO NOT send mail to the following addresses:
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Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked.
Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter.
