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Re: Hotmail NOC Contact

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Al Iverson)
Thu Apr 3 11:39:32 2008

Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:15:02 -0500
From: "Al Iverson" <aiversonlists@spamresource.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
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On 4/3/08, Fox, Thomas <tfox@expertsmi.com> wrote:
>
>  In the last 10 days or so, ever since ORDB re-activated itself and blacklisted everything, we have had deliverability problems to:
>
>  MSN
>  Hotmail
>  Bellsouth
>  AT&T (the same as Bellsouth I think)
>  Yahoo
>  Detroit Edison
>
>  In the case of MSN and Hotmail, they told us they were using Symantec's Brightmail filtering system.
>
>  So, does that mean Brightmail is not updating their system properly, or MSN/Hotmail is not updating their Brightmail?
>
>  Seems like a huge waste of everyone's time because some LARGE network operators can't keep their stuff updated.

No data has ever suggested that ORDB is/was used by any of those
entities you list. It was a peripheral blacklist at best. Just as an
additional data point, the clients I work with have all been able to
deliver mail to the sites you mention successfully in that same time
period.

Regards,
Al Iverson

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