[103489] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Hotmail NOC Contact
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Suresh Ramasubramanian)
Thu Apr 3 11:13:16 2008
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:36:50 +0530
From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <ops.lists@gmail.com>
To: "Fox, Thomas" <tfox@expertsmi.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <00a901c89598$4c5dea50$e519bef0$@com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
No. Thats not because of ordb. Because you see, if hotmail or these
other providers were using ORDB (they sure as hell arent) none of the
subscribers to those srevices would be getting ANY email at all.
There's some other issue with your IP. And it is an issue that
multiple providers are seeing
NAT gateway and mailserver IP on the same interface, for instance? Or
an overactive marketing department with a newsletter? Or an ISP with
outbound spam problems from compromised user PCs?
srs
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Fox, Thomas <tfox@expertsmi.com> wrote:
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> In the last 10 days or so, ever since ORDB re-activated itself and blacklisted everything, we have had deliverability problems to:
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> MSN
> Hotmail
> Bellsouth
> AT&T (the same as Bellsouth I think)
> Yahoo
> Detroit Edison
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> In the case of MSN and Hotmail, they told us they were using Symantec's Brightmail filtering system.
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> So, does that mean Brightmail is not updating their system properly, or MSN/Hotmail is not updating their Brightmail?
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> Seems like a huge waste of everyone's time because some LARGE network operators can't keep their stuff updated.
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> *grumble*
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Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists@gmail.com)