[103275] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: rack power question
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Duane Waddle)
Mon Mar 24 22:38:12 2008
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:31:53 -0500
From: "Duane Waddle" <duane.waddle@gmail.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0803242143070.2219@whammy.cluebyfour.org>
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On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Justin M. Streiner <streiner@cluebyfour.org>
wrote:
>
> While there are certainly customers out there who think along these lines,
> most of the enterprise customers I've run across in the past who would be
> in the market for data center colo would just as soon play the how-many-
> servers-can-i-jam-into-this-rack game, which is one part of the
> how-many-racks-can-i-jam-into-this-cage game for some folks...
>
> You might get some traction with the responsible deployment angle, but I
> could only guess at how much traction...
Speaking as one who used to play both of those games, it's a hard habit to
break. The folks paying the bills don't like to see empty space, because
they translate that into wasted $$'s. It's especially difficult when trying
to justify building out an additional cage (or making the one you have
bigger if there's empty adjacent space) because your current one is at max
kva per ft^2 - but has physical room for several more racks. The trick for
us was getting enough management clue in place to where you (gasp!) plan
ahead for your power needs first and make raw ft^2 the secondary concern.
--D
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On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Justin M. Streiner <<a href="mailto:streiner@cluebyfour.org">streiner@cluebyfour.org</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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</div>While there are certainly customers out there who think along these lines,<br>
most of the enterprise customers I've run across in the past who would be<br>
in the market for data center colo would just as soon play the how-many-<br>
servers-can-i-jam-into-this-rack game, which is one part of the<br>
how-many-racks-can-i-jam-into-this-cage game for some folks...<br>
<br>
You might get some traction with the responsible deployment angle, but I<br>
could only guess at how much traction...</blockquote><div><br>Speaking as one who used to play both of those games, it's a hard habit to break. The folks paying the bills don't like to see empty space, because they translate that into wasted $$'s. It's especially difficult when trying to justify building out an additional cage (or making the one you have bigger if there's empty adjacent space) because your current one is at max kva per ft^2 - but has physical room for several more racks. The trick for us was getting enough management clue in place to where you (gasp!) plan ahead for your power needs first and make raw ft^2 the secondary concern.<br>
<br></div></div>--D<br>
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