[102669] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: YouTube IP Hijacking
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Campbell, Alex)
Sun Feb 24 17:29:24 2008
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:15:51 +1100
From: "Campbell, Alex" <Alex.Campbell@dtdigital.com.au>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Not if the hijackers have advertised a /24. Anything you advertise more
specific than /24 will be lost on many networks' filters.
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From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of
Tomas L. Byrnes
Sent: Monday, 25 February 2008 8:49 AM
To: Michael Smith; neil.fenemor@fx.net.nz
Cc: will@harg.net; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: YouTube IP Hijacking
Which means that, by advertising routes more specific than the ones they
are poisoning, it may well be possible to restore universal connectivity
to YouTube.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Smith [mailto:msmith@internap.com]=20
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 1:23 PM
> To: neil.fenemor@fx.net.nz; Tomas L. Byrnes
> Cc: will@harg.net; nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: YouTube IP Hijacking
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> Exactly... They inadvertently made the details of their=20
> oppression more readily apparent...
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu <owner-nanog@merit.edu>
> To: Tomas L. Byrnes <tomb@byrneit.net>
> Cc: Will Hargrave <will@harg.net>; nanog@merit.edu <nanog@merit.edu>
> Sent: Sun Feb 24 16:00:35 2008
> Subject: Re: YouTube IP Hijacking
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> While they are deliberately blocking Youtube nationally, I=20
> suspect the wider issue has no malice, and is a case of=20
> poorly constructed/ implemented outbound policies on their=20
> part, and poorly constructed/ implemented inbound polices on=20
> their upstreams part.
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> On 25/02/2008, at 9:49 AM, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:
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> > Pakistan is deliberately blocking Youtube.
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> > http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=3D08/02/24/1628213
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> > Maybe we should all block Pakistan.
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> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]=20
> On Behalf=20
> >> Of Will Hargrave
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:39 PM
> >> To: nanog@nanog.org
> >> Subject: Re: YouTube IP Hijacking
> >>
> >>
> >> Sargun Dhillon wrote:
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> >>> So, it seems that youtube's ip block has been hijacked by a more=20
> >>> specific prefix being advertised. This is a case of IP
> >> hijacking, not
> >>> case of DNS poisoning, youtube engineers doing something
> >> stupid, etc.
> >>> For people that don't know. The router will try to get the most=20
> >>> specific prefix. This is by design, not by accident.
> >>
> >> You are making the assumption of malice when the more=20
> likely cause is=20
> >> one of accident on the part of probably stressed NOC staff=20
> at 17557.
> >>
> >> They probably have that /24 going to a gateway walled garden box=20
> >> which replies with a site saying 'we have banned this',=20
> and that /24=20
> >> route is leaking outside of their AS via PCCW due to dodgy=20
> >> filters/communities.
> >>
> >> Will
> >>
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> Neil Fenemor
> FX Networks
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