[102662] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sun Feb 24 16:34:58 2008
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
To: "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen@sprunk.org>
In-Reply-To: <009401c87727$d9e51cc0$6401a8c0@atlanta.polycom.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:32:06 -0800
Cc: "Tom Vest" <tvest@eyeconomics.com>,
"Adrian Chadd" <adrian@creative.net.au>,
"John Lee" <John@internetassociatesllc.com>,
"North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes" <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Feb 24, 2008, at 12:45 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>
> Thus spake "Tom Vest" <tvest@eyeconomics.com>
>> On Feb 23, 2008, at 1:54 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>>> Rechecking my own post to PPML, 73 Xtra Large orgs held 79.28% of
>>> ARIN's address space as of May 07; my apology for a faulty
>>> memory, but it's not off by enough to invalidate the point.
>>>
>>> The statistics came from ARIN Member Services in response to an
>>> email
>>> inquiry. I don't believe they publish such things anywhere
>>> (other than what's in WHOIS), but you can verify yourself if you
>>> wish; they were quite willing to
>>> give me any stats I asked for if they had the necessary data
>>> available.
>>
>> Thanks for the information Stephen.
>> In order to be perfectly clear on how to interpret this, it would
>> be good to know whether this sum includes the pre-ARIN
>> delegations, or just reflects what has happened since ARIN was
>> established.
>
> The wording of the question and response referred only to "ARIN
> members". That does not include most orgs with _only_ legacy
> allocations, but it would include orgs with both legacy and non-
> legacy allocations. Presumably, if an org had both types, both
> would have been included, but that wasn't explicitly stated since it
> wasn't relevant to the questions I was asking at the time.
>
Not necessarily. Orgs which are end-users and not LIR/ISP subscriber
members may have
resources from ARIN without being members.
Owen
