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Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Tue Feb 19 18:59:30 2008

To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
Cc: Per Heldal <heldal@eml.cc>, Nanog <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:56:44 PST."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:51:42 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:56:44 PST, David Conrad said:
  
> Does InterOp? Does HP need 2 plus a bunch of /16s?  Etc.  In the  
> extreme, does any reasonably sized organization really _need_ more  
> than a few /32s (which could be allocated out of PA space thereby  
> reducing fragmentation) for their NAT gateway and public facing  
> servers?

Only if you think "everybody hiding behind a NAT" is workable - in particular,
if you've got enough hosts that you're using up most of 2 /16s, you probably
have enough machines that might want an *inbound* SYN packet once in a while
that NAT isn't a really good idea.  Maybe if you're a corporation where
98% of the machines really shouldn't be accessing the Internet at all *anyhow*,
but if you're someplace where "Yes, you can get to the Internet" is policy,
you shouldn't be getting into the "but we're not letting you to *all* of
the Internet, just the things NAT works with" food-fight.


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