[10249] in North American Network Operators' Group

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: MCI outages (summary)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robert_Gutierrez@3com.com)
Thu Jun 26 15:03:59 1997

From: Robert_Gutierrez@3com.com
To: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 11:34:07 -0700





>     I think the traceroute fails at this hop.  Outages work just like
> routing, you pay , X pays MCI, if your not happy you call X,
> X calls MCI, if X doesn't call MCI, then why would you buy service from
> them?  This is the standard operator proceure, if there ever was one.
(I hope the formatting is OK.  I'm not a Lotus Notes fan ...)

OK, here's a scenario for you.  Traceroute fails inside MCI somewhere.  So
you
call your upstream, and said upstream only has a peering relationship with
MCI -- ie: not a paying customer.  I'm under the impression that unless
you're
a paying customer, then (to quote a 70's phrase) "you don't have nothin'
comin'".

For those ISP/IBP's out there, can a BGP peer open a trouble ticket with
you to have a problem looked at?  Or does the "paying customer" have to
open the TT.  What if I can't get the "paying customer" to open up the TT
(ie: you think I can get sex.com to open a TT with their upstream, as if
they
would care longer than the time to hit the "D" key on my message).

     rob



home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post