[102484] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Interpersonal skills needed for Network Engineers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Henry Linneweh)
Sun Feb 17 15:21:10 2008
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:17:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Henry Linneweh <hrlinneweh@sbcglobal.net>
To: "R. Irving" <rirving@antient.org>, Bill Nash <billn@billn.net>
Cc: Kim Onnel <karim.adel@gmail.com>, NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
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Funny that this issue came up, I recently took a class in Interpersonal Communications,
which are essential in the "New Workforce", I highly recommend such classes to everyone,
makes life so much easier, since it impacts every aspect of how the world perceives you, and how
you foster perceptions and validate other people and their issues....
-Henry
----- Original Message ----
From: R. Irving <rirving@antient.org>
To: Bill Nash <billn@billn.net>
Cc: Kim Onnel <karim.adel@gmail.com>; NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:36:17 PM
Subject: Re: Interpersonal skills needed for Network Engineers
Proof read, and corrected.
* sigh *
time to call it a day. :-\
R. Irving wrote:
>
> Kim Onnel wrote:
> <snip>
>>>
>>> In my humble experience, i have came across people that i just feel
>>> they are
>>> not right for such technical jobs, people would act and take their
>>> golden
>>> fingers to the devices without logic and others who has more of a
>>> structured
>>> approach to solving problems and thinking, some that will crank under
>>> pressure and just loose it and others who will act rationally.
> The Executive Summary:
>
> You know those techs that are easy to understand,
> and communicate so effectively,
> almost always seeing things your way ?
>
> Those are the sycophants, Jungian type "E's".
>
> You know those techs that always seem to
> be talking over your head, and telling you things
> don't work the way you think, always screaming caution ?
>
> Those are your *real* techs, Jungian type "I".
>
> Why can't most managers figure this out ?
>
> See: Alpha Male Syndrome, by our friends at Monster.com
> (Kate Ludeman, PhD, and Eddie Erlandson, MD)
>
> http://www.alphamalesyndrome.com/
>
> :-P
>
> </noise><signal>
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<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Funny that this issue came up, I recently took a class in Interpersonal Communications,</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">which are essential in the "New Workforce", I highly recommend such classes to everyone,</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">makes life so much easier, since it impacts every aspect of how the world perceives you, and how</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">you foster perceptions and validate other people and their issues....</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">-Henry<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">----- Original Message ----<BR>From: R. Irving <rirving@antient.org><BR>To: Bill Nash <billn@billn.net><BR>Cc: Kim Onnel <karim.adel@gmail.com>; NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org><BR>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:36:17 PM<BR>Subject: Re: Interpersonal skills needed for Network Engineers<BR><BR><BR>Proof read, and corrected.<BR>* sigh *<BR><BR>time to call it a day. :-\<BR><BR>R. Irving wrote:<BR>><BR>> Kim Onnel wrote:<BR>> <snip><BR>>>><BR>>>> In my humble experience, i have came across people that i just feel <BR>>>> they are<BR>>>> not right for such technical jobs, people would act and take their <BR>>>> golden<BR>>>> fingers to the devices without logic and others who has more of a <BR>>>> structured<BR>>>> approach to solving problems and
thinking, some that will crank under<BR>>>> pressure and just loose it and others who will act rationally.<BR>> The Executive Summary:<BR>><BR>> You know those techs that are easy to understand,<BR>> and communicate so effectively,<BR>> almost always seeing things your way ?<BR>><BR>> Those are the sycophants, Jungian type "E's".<BR>><BR>> You know those techs that always seem to<BR>> be talking over your head, and telling you things<BR>> don't work the way you think, always screaming caution ?<BR>><BR>> Those are your *real* techs, Jungian type "I".<BR>><BR>> Why can't most managers figure this out ?<BR>><BR>> See: Alpha Male Syndrome, by our friends at <A href="http://monster.com/" target=_blank>Monster.com</A><BR>> (Kate Ludeman, PhD, and Eddie Erlandson, MD)<BR>><BR>> <A href="http://www.alphamalesyndrome.com/"
target=_blank>http://www.alphamalesyndrome.com/</A><BR>><BR>> :-P<BR>><BR>> </noise><signal><BR><BR></DIV>
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