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Re: Blackholes and IXs and Completing the Attack.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Ferguson)
Sat Feb 2 23:01:04 2008

From: "Paul Ferguson" <fergdawg@netzero.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 03:57:48 GMT
To: rdobbins@cisco.com
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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- -- Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@cisco.com> wrote:

>On Feb 3, 2008, at 4:50 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote:
>
>> We (Trend Micro) do something similar to this -- a black-hole BGP
>> feed of known botnet C&Cs, such that the C&C channel is effectively
>> black-holed.
>
>What's the trigger (pardon the pun, heh) and process for removing IPs  =
=

from the blackhole list post-cleanup, in Trend's case?
>

We have a team that does the vetting/validation and when the C&Cs
are taken down (or "decommissioned") they are removed from the
feed.

>Is there a notification mechanism so that folks who may not subscribe  =
=

to Trend's service but who are unwittingly hosting a botnet C&C are  =

made aware of same?
>

Well, we try to notify the owners of the identified hosts, but it
is not always successful... and sometimes the sheer churn is
prohibitive.

- - ferg

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 Engineering Architecture for the Internet
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