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RE: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rod Beck)
Sat Feb 2 14:42:38 2008
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:39:29 -0000
From: "Rod Beck" <Rod.Beck@hiberniaatlantic.com>
To: "Robert Bonomi" <bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
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Gentlemen,=20
This is my last comment on this subject.=20
Paranoia is not a virtue. And security establishments are notorious for =
exaggerating threats (Soviet Union's economy and hence ability to wage =
war was half of what the CIA estimated). They are interest groups just =
like the rest of us ... They pursue their self interest as General =
Eisenhower noted about a certain's military establishment.=20
:)
If you know the undersea cable industry, you know that several cables =
can be down at the same time without malice playing a role...
Last year both undersea cables into Pakistan were severed. The two =
cables were laid within several feet of each other along a stretch of =
shallow water.=20
When a ship sank, it crushed both cables.
In December of 2006, three Irish sea cables went dead. One was cut in =
twenty feet of water. One was cut on land and a third damaged in the =
middle of the Irish sea.
It happens all the time.
Terrorists are clearly looking for more high profile events than =
disrupting unmanned undersea cable systems. It doesn't make for great =
television shots ... It is really to get shots of an undersea severed =
cable ...
Have a good weekend.=20
Regards,=20
Roderick S. Beck
Director of European Sales
Hibernia Atlantic
1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris
http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com
Wireless: 1-212-444-8829.=20
Landline: 33-1-4346-3209.
French Wireless: 33-6-14-33-48-97.
AOL Messenger: GlobalBandwidth
rod.beck@hiberniaatlantic.com
rodbeck@erols.com
``Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.'' =
Albert Einstein.=20
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu on behalf of Robert Bonomi
Sent: Sat 2/2/2008 7:20 PM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt =
undersea cable disruption
=20
> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:21:00 -0800
> From: "Scott Francis" <darkuncle@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt =
undersea cable disruption
>
>
> On Feb 1, 2008 6:37 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> =
wrote:
> >
> > =
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/third-undersea-cable-reportedly-cut=
/story.aspx?guid=3D{1AAB2A79-E983-4E0E-BC39-68A120DC16D9}
> >
> > "We had another cut today between Dubai and Muscat three hours =
back.
> > The cable was about 80G capacity, it had telephone, Internet data,
> > everything," one Flag official, who declined to be named, told Zawya
> > Dow Jones.
> > The cable, known as Falcon, delivers services to countries in the
> > Mediterranean and Gulf region, he added.
>
> this (3 undersea cables in about a week, serving the same geographic
> area, with two of the cuts happening on the same day!) is leaving the
> realm of improbability and approaching the realm of conspiracy ...
"Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence"
comes to mind.
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Gentlemen,<BR>
<BR>
This is my last comment on this subject.<BR>
<BR>
Paranoia is not a virtue. And security establishments are notorious for =
exaggerating threats (Soviet Union's economy and hence ability to wage =
war was half of what the CIA estimated). They are interest groups =
just like the rest of us ... They pursue their self interest as General =
Eisenhower noted about a certain's military establishment.<BR>
<BR>
:)<BR>
<BR>
If you know the undersea cable industry, you know that several cables =
can be down at the same time without malice playing a role...<BR>
<BR>
Last year both undersea cables into Pakistan were severed. The two =
cables were laid within several feet of each other along a stretch of =
shallow water.<BR>
<BR>
When a ship sank, it crushed both cables.<BR>
<BR>
In December of 2006, three Irish sea cables went dead. One was cut in =
twenty feet of water. One was cut on land and a third damaged in the =
middle of the Irish sea.<BR>
<BR>
It happens all the time.<BR>
<BR>
Terrorists are clearly looking for more high profile events than =
disrupting unmanned undersea cable systems. It doesn't make for great =
television shots ... It is really to get shots of an undersea severed =
cable ...<BR>
<BR>
Have a good weekend.<BR>
<BR>
Regards,<BR>
<BR>
Roderick S. Beck<BR>
Director of European Sales<BR>
Hibernia Atlantic<BR>
1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris<BR>
<A =
HREF=3D"http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com">http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com<=
/A><BR>
Wireless: 1-212-444-8829.<BR>
Landline: 33-1-4346-3209.<BR>
French Wireless: 33-6-14-33-48-97.<BR>
AOL Messenger: GlobalBandwidth<BR>
rod.beck@hiberniaatlantic.com<BR>
rodbeck@erols.com<BR>
``Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.'' =
Albert Einstein.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu on behalf of Robert Bonomi<BR>
Sent: Sat 2/2/2008 7:20 PM<BR>
To: nanog@merit.edu<BR>
Subject: Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt =
undersea cable disruption<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:21:00 -0800<BR>
> From: "Scott Francis" <darkuncle@gmail.com><BR>
> Subject: Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to =
Egypt undersea cable disruption<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
> On Feb 1, 2008 6:37 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian =
<ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:<BR>
> ><BR>
> > <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/third-undersea-cable-report=
edly-cut/story.aspx?guid=3D">http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/third-=
undersea-cable-reportedly-cut/story.aspx?guid=3D</A>{1AAB2A79-E983-4E0E-B=
C39-68A120DC16D9}<BR>
> ><BR>
> > "We had another cut today between Dubai and Muscat =
three hours back.<BR>
> > The cable was about 80G capacity, it had telephone, Internet =
data,<BR>
> > everything," one Flag official, who declined to be named, =
told Zawya<BR>
> > Dow Jones.<BR>
> > The cable, known as Falcon, delivers services to countries in =
the<BR>
> > Mediterranean and Gulf region, he added.<BR>
><BR>
> this (3 undersea cables in about a week, serving the same =
geographic<BR>
> area, with two of the cuts happening on the same day!) is leaving =
the<BR>
> realm of improbability and approaching the realm of conspiracy =
...<BR>
<BR>
"Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by =
incompetence"<BR>
comes to mind.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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